new orleans as gunfire wounds 19 people, including two children, and now police are asking for your help. the latest on the manhunt in a live report. >> oh. >> imagine waking up to that. an eight-foot alligator at your front door. one family's terrifying surprise caught on video. you got to see this. it's monday, may 13th. "starting point" begins right now. >> in our "starting point" this morning the final moments of a decade in captivity captured on camera. two young women who thought they were being pulled over by the cops, instead wound up as witnesses to history. >> they did it by recording police rushing in to the home of suspected kidnapper ariel castro last week with a cell phone. you'll see it all in a moment. also new this morning, a cnn exclusive. >> do you worry now that people

will always suspect that you actually did have a role? >> straight ahead martin savidge's interview with onil and pedro castro, the brothers of suspected kidnapping suspect ariel castro only on cnn. >> as we said we have a lot going on this morning. we want to begin with susan candiotti who is live in cleveland this morning. susan looking at some amazing young video from -- shot by these two young women near castro's house. they have quite a story to tell this morning. >> oh, they sure do. they had no idea when they happened to pull down this street that they were about to see certain events unfold that were so dramatic, and they were able to capture some of it on their cell phone. so what happened is is that they thought they saw the flashing lights, and so they stopped, and

then they watcheds aofficers ran in to the house to rescue these women. i think we've got more of their story to tell. and where did you see her, amanda and her little girl? >> coming down the street. >> and then everything unfolded right here? >> yep. >> these two women happened to turn on to ariel castro's street and found themselves smack in the middle of an amazing escape to freedom. >> amanda walking down the street with a cop right when the cop asked her who are you, she passed us and said amanda berry. >> when you heard the name amanda berry and you knew exactly -- >> me and her looked at each other and we had goose bumps and then we pulled up our hoodie and like, you know -- >> goose bumps. >> it hit us quick. >> when she said amanda berry i saw it in her eyes and i knew it was really her. she had tears coming down her face. >> she pulled out her cell phone and rolled video as police ran to ariel castro's house looking for other victims. then her phone ran out of power.

>> we see gina coming down the steps shaking real, real, real hard. like she was cold. and they took them to the ambulance. >> they watched gina dejesus, michelle knight, amanda berry, and her daughter taken away by ambulance. ♪ on mother's day, special prayers of thanksgiving at holy family catholic church for the women's freedom. >> amanda berry, michelle knight, gina dejesus. >> the crisis management team stepped in to represent the women at no charge, pleading for privacy and passing alone the victims' thanks. from amanda. >> i am so happy to be home with my family. >> from gina. >> i want to thank everyone for all your prayers. >> from michelle. >> i am healthy, happy, and safe. and will reach out to family, friends and supporters in good time.

>> castro's home now finally boarded up. sealed as evidence. a city councilman allowed to stand in the backyard, overcome by what the women endured for a decade. >> you can't help but feel like, you know, the presence of -- of this enormity of -- of the event. i mean, it's unbelievable. >> what did you picture in your mind's eye of what those women went through as you stood back there? >> it's just horrors. absolute horrors. >> all right our thanks to susan candiotti for that report. want to get right now to the cnn exclusive. pedro and onil castro speaking publicly for the first time about their brother ariel. the decade of torture he allegedly inflicted on his victims, and the impact that all this madness has had on them. martin savidge, in cleveland, with an exclusive story you will see only on cnn. >> when you were arrested on monday, and brought in, were you told why you were under arrest? >> absolutely not. >> no.

>> you had no idea? >> no. >> not for 48, maybe 36 to 48 hours later. >> pedro, when did you become aware? >> well, there was a -- an inmate that didn't speak english, so i translated for him. so then i asked her, now that i help you, can you help me. >> this is to the officers? >> yes. and she said, sure. what you want to know? i want to know what am i being charged for. so she said, okay. i'll go see. so she comes back and she -- she's got a piece of paper, written down whatever i was in for. and -- because i didn't have my reading glasses, i looked, and i said oh, open container. she said no, read it again. and i says oh, kidnapping? what? what's this kidnapping? >> where was ariel?

>> ariel was in the front more toward the front on suicide watch. >> did he ever go past you? did you ever see him or -- >> i did. because in -- where he was at, there's no toilet. so, across the -- from my cell, there was one open, so he could -- he came there, used it. i seen then that's when i seen him. and when i came out, he said peace to me. >> so evidently that happened, when he walked past me he goes onil you're never going to see me again, i love you bro. >> so when did you become aware of what he did? >> well just shortly after that, when the detective took me in to the room and started asking me questions and showing me pictures of the girls. and when he showed me the pictures of the girls, asked me, do you know these girls? he showed me first, i can't tell

you -- i can't even tell you which one he showed me first, but he says have you ever seen this girl? and i said, no i've never seen that girl. and then he showed me the other one, have you ever seen this girl? i said no, i've never seen that girl. and he says, that's gina dejesus. and amanda berry. and my heart fell. i just dropped not physically but i just -- just hit the ground, and after he said that's amanda berry and they were in your brother's house. >> you had been in the house. >> yes. >> you would go to the house. >> yes. >> i mean, how often? >> no, no, not how often. i didn't go to his house very much. but when i did, he would let me in past the kitchen. >> did you see anything beyond the kitchen? >> no. because there's curtains. >> he had the house blocked off with curtains? >> mm-hmm. >> and what about could you hear anything in the home?

>> no. the radio was playing all the time. >> he would play music all the time? >> yeah. if not the radio, the tv. something had to be on at all time in the kitchen. so -- so i could hear nothing else but the radio or the tv. >> did you, in any way, know, help, assist, your brother in the horrible things he's accused of doing? >> absolutely not. no idea that this horrific crime was going on. >> pedro? >> no. >> you know there are people who will say you had to know. how is it possible for so long in that home your brother, you couldn't know? >> for those people out there, i will tell you something, i had

nothing to do with this. and i don't know how it -- my brother got away with it for so many years. because, that would never cross my mind. >> he fooled you. >> he fooled me. >> do you worry now that people will always suspect that you actually did have a role? >> absolutely. >> yes. >> and the people out there that know me, they know that onil castro is not that person, has nothing to do with that. i wouldn't never think of doing anything like that. >> what is your brother to you now? >> monster, hateful, i hope he rots in that jail. i don't even want them to take his life like that. i want him to suffer in that jail. to the last extent. i don't care if they even feed

him. what he has done to my life and my family's. >> i feel the same way. >> to the both of you now he no longer exists? >> right. >> yeah. >> he is gone? >> he is gone. >> almost as if he were dead. >> yeah. monster is a goner. >> if you could talk to gina, you could talk to michelle, you could talk to amanda, and in a way you are, i guess, what would you say? >> i would -- i would tell her -- i would tell them that i'm sorry that you had to go through this. that i was -- i was thinking about these girls being missing, and i'm just grateful that they're home. you know, out of that horrible house, and i just -- i just tell them that i'm sorry for what ariel done.

because see, i -- not much -- it's felix, i know him for long time. and when i find out that, that ariel had gina, i just -- i just broke down. because it's shocking. ariel we know this guy for a long time. felix. >> this is gina's father. >> yeah, felix. felix dejesus. and you got his daughter? and you go -- you go around like it's nothing. you even went to the vigils, you had posters, you give his momma a hug? and you got his daughter captive? >> onil, same thing? i mean -- >> totally the same thing. i just want also the families to get the justice for the full

extent to the fullest extent. this has torn my heart apart. this has killed me. i'm a walking corpse right now. >> why are you talking to me? >> i want the world to know that onil and pedro, me, pedro, had nothing to do with this. it was a shock to me to learn that my brother ariel was doing this. >> i want to thank you both for talking to us, for sharing with us. and opening up to us. thank you. >> thank you. and -- >> and i hope the world listen to us, and we went back to normal. >> you already got your monster. please give us our freedom. >> and you can tell that that is

a gut-wrenching, and soul-searching interview that was done by those two brothers. there was nothing that we didn't talk about, couldn't talk about. but most of all they wanted to express, again, how grateful they were that those women are free, and to make sure that people knew that they had nothing to do with it. because, since all of this has come out, they have not been able to go home. there are death threats against the family. their homes have been broken into, and they are terrified for what could happen to them, as well. >> martin, that was simply a riveting interview. a fantastic work there. what are these brothers going to do now? i mean how long do they intend to stay in hiding? >> yeah, well, the hope is that by having their story told, and especially by having it told on cnn, and as widely as it can reach with that, that this will tamper down emotions, that this will make people realize that, as pedro put it, the monster is in jail now and that the rest of the family is not to be blamed for this, and they hope that

very soon they will be able to return home. >> and how much second-guessing is going on? how much of their past are they digging through, the memories are they poring over trying to see what signs there may have been over the last ten years? >> so much of this, john, is going on right now. i mean, you could tell in talking to them, they are haunted by so many things. and there's actually more of this interview that we will get to later that they saw. little things. little things. but they never made them all in to one big thing, that moment of realization, they're embarrassed they are shocked. the litany goes on and on and on. it's not only finding out about the horrors that were carried out on these women, one of them they knew personally, but then that last realization that oh, my god, it was my brother. it was a devastating blow. >> trying to come to terms with their family. trying to come to terms with themselves, with the last ten years. martin, terrific work. thank you so much. we will come back to you soon.

appreciate it. in just 15 minutes here on "starting point" we're going to be joined by maria castro mon tes. she is kidnapping suspect ariel castro's cousin. >> also ahead on "starting point" gunfire erupts at a mother's day parade in new orleans. injuring 19 people. we have new video showing the very moment shots rang out, and a possible look at the suspect. that's next. then it is a job for the gator boys. when an eight foot alligator turns up at one family's front door, this whole story coming up. you're watching "starting point." [ female announcer ] at jcpenney, we never stop being amazed by you. how you work so hard without looking like you do. how you make every dollar stretch so far and keep your family so close. so we brought back the things you liked about jcpenney. gave you new things to explore. and now, we're happy to say, you've come back to us. ♪ we're speechless. except for two little words.

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developing this morning an all-out manhunt for three suspects police say opened fire on people marching in a mother's day parade in new orleans. 19 people were wounded, including two children. cnn has just obtained video of the actual shooting. listen to this. >> i got [ bleep ] -- [ gunshots ]

>> some of the people at the parade said the situation was pure chaos. you can see it. >> everybody started running, and running and running, and we weren't sure what's going on. and they're shooting. >> i just opened my door today and two guys just collapse right down on my steps you know, me and my daughter did the best thing we can to revive them. >> meantime the mayor of new orleans says they'll hunt down those that are responsible. >> we have mothers that were shot, sisters that were shot, we have little children that were shot. these kinds of incidents are not going to go unanswered. somebody knows 40 who did this. >> we have new video that shows surveillance photos. you see this large group of people at the mother's day event and you can see the suspect wearing a white t-shirt becoming apparent as the crowd runs away from him. all right new overnight terrifying video of an intense deadly fire that engulfed a home

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welcome back to "starting point" everyone. new developments this morning surrounding the irs firestorm and it truly is becoming a firestorm. a report coming out this week shows irs officials were targeting tea party and other conservative groups he those groups applied for tax exempt status. >> the audit says the irs flagged groups with names like tea party, patriot and the 912 project, a group created by glenn beck. cnn's candy crowley spoke to republican senator susan collins on sunday. >> this is truly outrageous, and it contributes to the profound

distrust that the american people have in government. it is absolutely chilling that the irs was singling out conservative groups for extra review. and i think that it's very disappointing that the president hasn't personally condemned this and spoken out. >> the national coordinator for tea party patriots joins us this morning. good morning, welcome to the program. is it good enough for you that the irs has said we're sorry? >> absolutely not. this is, i think senator collins hit it right on the head. this is chilling. this is what happens in other countries. when government agencies target and harass particular groups based on their ideology. that is deserving of so much more than just a mere apology. >> and we should say, the director of the organizations at the irs this is what she said on friday that was absolutely incorrect she said it was insensitive, and it was inappropriate that's not how we

go about selecting cases for further review. the irs would like to apologize for that. what more would you like to see? >> well, we need to know how did this start? who started it? who knew what? and when did they know it? how far up does this go? does it go up all the way into treasury? does it go up into the administration? who -- who is a part of this? how are these decisions made? and, and what is going to happen to the people that did it? if there are no consequences for people who abuse their power like this, then it's not going to stop. and it's not going to stop the tea party patriots. it will be some other group that gets singled out. and i don't think any of us want that. >> do you think it went higher up than just these irs officials who worked in cincinnati apparently these low-level irs officials in cincinnati, you have any evidence of that? >> well, we've already seen that there's some discrepancy, haven't we? because later now we found out that chief counsel met and ms. learner met and they changed the criteria. but they only changed the

criteria where these applications were flagged from say tea party patriots to things like groups that are educating on the constitution and bill of rights. that's pretty ironic considering what they were doing was unconstitutional. >> the time line is getting problematic. the commissioner of the irs who was, we say, a bush appointee, actually gave testimony on this back in 2012. let's listen to what he said briefly. >> first let me start by saying, yes, i can give you assurances, as you know, we pride ourselves on being a nonpolitical, nonpartisan organization. there's absolutely no targeting. this is the kind of back and forth what happens he people apply for 501c4 status. >> do you have any events you were targeted on over the last several years? >> i'm not going to say a lot right now except our group tea party patriots is discussing our options. we're looking at the time line. we're looking at what did happen

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welcome back to "starting point," i'm john berman. >> and i'm christine romans. >> two women who thought they were about to get in trouble with police wound up as witnesses to history. they happened to be driving on seymour avenue in cleveland,

last week, at the very same time that officers were about to storm suspected kidnapper ariel castro's home. at first, they thought they were being pulled over by cops. once they realized what was happening they broke out a cell phone camera and they began rolling on the final moments of that ten-year horror story. also, an interview you'll only see on cnn. pedro and onil castro breaking their silence about their brother, ariel. the unspeakable crimes he allegedly committed. and the effect it's having on their own lives. they're going to tell our martin savidge they're feeling very much like victims, too, even though they were quickly cleared by police shortly after their arrest. >> i want this to be true. like i said earlier i want to wake up out of this nightmare. >> i want to say that i don't want to be hunted down like a dog for a crime that i did not commit. i don't want to be locked up in my house because somebody out there is going to to do harm to

me. >> joining us now, mario castro montez a cousin of ariel pedro and onil. thank you for joining us. so nice to see you. when you hear that, when you hear those two cousins, your cousins talking about being hunted down for a crime that they, they did not commit, tell me what's happening with your family, and how your family feels about, i guess the public perceptions there. >> right. you know, it's very difficult, first of all, because we did, you know, the media was making it look, and the police did make it look like it was all three. so there was certainly a great sense of relief when we found out that the two had been found innocent. you know, i should hope, one of my initial statements was to please not judge an entire family based on one person's actions, and here then became a perfect example.

these poor men have also fallen victim to the horrible things that their brother did. and i should hope that people remain rational and realize that the reason that they were let go is because the girls themselves have made these statements to the police that there was no one else involved. specifically, these two brothers. so they have to accept that and move on and realize that they're totally innocent. and so please, just not retaliate against these two brothers or their mother. >> what's your reaction to their interview? i mean they said they wanted to, they sat down with cnn so they could really clear the air, and make sure people knew that they, they are disgusted by the alleged actions of their brother, that they don't want the family to be pointed in the same light. >> right. right. exactly. and i mean, it's painful, as well. you know, in watching his daughter's interview, it's obvious that he fooled everyone.

you know, he obviously lived two separate lives. and you know, everyone thought that he was the good person, that we all at some point in our lives had thought him to be. and now all of these things are coming to light, and it's got to be horrifying. it's horrifying for me, and i'm just a cousin. >> mm-hmm. >> these are the people that lived their lives with him daily. i can't even imagine what they're thinking and what they're going through. >> what are your, you and your family members talking about? i mean are you all sort of going through your memory, going through history and trying to find tell told telltale signs or any kind of red flags in hindsight i mean it must be i can only imagine everyone's wracking their brains trying to figure out what did we miss? >> right. well, we -- we have wracked our brains, unfortunately not about what we missed about this case, because there certainly could have been anything that we missed. none of us had been in the house and there weren't any signs with

him and we didn't see him that often, more recently. what we've wracked our brains about is, is when we did know him, and interacted with him in such happy times. i think back now to what point in his life made him change? at what point in his life when i was looking at him, even in younger days, did he already have some evil heart. at what point was there a turning point? that's what i'm finding difficult also to come to grips with. >> i want to play a little bit of sound from that interview. so many fascinating, fascinating responses from onil and pedro. but, in in particular unusual behavior about the house. listen. >> he would let me in, not past the kitchen. >> could you see anything beyond the kitchen? >> no. because there's curtains. >> he had the house blocked off

with curtains? >> mm-hmm. >> and what about, could you hear anything in the home? >> no. the radio was playing all the time. >> he would play music all the time? >> yeah. if not the radio, the tv. something had to be on at all time in the kitchen. >> such odd behavior. but he really, people didn't really go to his house very often. people in the family really didn't go there very much, did they? >> right. right. i mean when you think about it, he was a bachelor. and you know, most bachelors don't entertain. and and as far as the music, you know, obviously in hindsight we look at it back now and say oh, he was trying to muffle sounds and that kind of thing. but he was a musician, and, you know, being hispanic we love our music. i blast my music in my car. most people do, or in my home when i'm cleaning or cooking or doing my daily chores. so, the sound of music isn't anything for people to have found as strange. >> all right. well maria, thank you for coming

and sharing your story with us this morning. and again, just i can't imagine how the family must be just going over every little detail over the years, just such a shocking, shocking turn of events. thank you. >> another major story we're following this morning. new developments in new orleans, where police are asking for the public's help to track down the suspect behind a shooting at a mother's day parade that wounded 19 people, including two children. they're now offering a $10,000 reward for help. cnn's alina machado is live in new orleans for us. alina, the new orleans police department released surveillance photos brand-new this morning. tell us about these. >> we want to actually show you those photographs. it's a series of photographs that were released by the new orleans police department and in them we see a man with a white shirt, he seems to walk toward a crowd and starts shooting. looks like he's shooting into the crowd. and then he sees -- he seems to be taking off, running away from the scene. the new orleans police department tells us this man is a suspect in this case.

they are trying to figure out exactly who he is, and they are asking for the public's help in doing just that. now this shooting happened in the seventh ward yesterday afternoon around 1:30. the seventh ward, that neighborhood where it happened, is just a few minutes from lsu medical center. this is where several victims were brought for treatment, and this shooting happened during a parade. there were hundreds of people outside during the shooting. they were out enjoying the parade, celebrating mother's day. here are two eyewitness accounts we have for you. take a listen. >> everybody started running and running and running and we weren't sure what's going on and they're shooting. >> i just opened my door today and two guys just collapse right there on my steps. you know, me and my daughter did the best thing we can to revive them. >> again, 19 people were wounded in this shooting. and most of these wounds are not considered to be life threatening. police say most of the wounds

were graze wounds. two children were hurt in the shooting. the ages of those children 10 years old. of course police continue investigating and trying to figure out exactly what happened. >> trying to find the identity of that suspect in the white t-shirt. thank you alina machado for bringing us the new video and all the new developments. new developments in the murder of 8-year-old california girl leila fowler. 12-year-old brother under arrest for allegedly killing his sister. their stepmother crystal walters posted a message on facebook saying quote, thank you for those who are standing by us in this devastating time for our family. thank you for respecting our privacy during this time. we need a little space. happy mother's day to all. cnn's dan simon live in valley springs, california. good morning, dan. >> good morning, christine. for two weeks this community was absolutely terrified, and on the lookout for a killer. someone they believed randomly barged into a home and targeted an 8-year-old girl. well now the sheriff says this was far from random. in the days after her killing,

an emotional candle light vigil to remember 8-year-old leila fowler, known for her bubbly personality. >> leila was beautiful and strong. she was kind. i remembered that leila liked purple. >> reporter: leila's family among the mourners, seen here was her 12-year-old brother, the one who had told police that an intruder stabbed his sister while they were home alone, and their parents were at a little league baseball game. a story authorities now say was a lie. >> at 5:10 p.m. detectives arrested leila's 12-year-old brother at the valley springs substation and charged -- on charges of homicide. these types of cases require a considerable amount of time, and it was our commitment to make sure that we did a thorough job as possible. >> reporter: the family remained visible throughout the investigation. leila's mother spoke about the closeness between her son and daughter. >> he never like pushed her around, like big brothers and sisters do.

he never like was ever was mean to her. >> reporter: in the immediate aftermath of the killing two weeks ago this usually serene northern california community of 7500 went into a near frenzy, as nervous residents believed a killer was at large. and wondered whether there would be more victims. >> i've lived here 33 years. i've never seen anything like this happen. >> we've had bad things happen in our community, but never like this to a little child. >> reporter: patricia campbell owns a popular diner in town. she and everyone else we talked to here were shocked at the turn of events. >> it's bad enough to lose one of your own children. i can't imagine losing one, too. by the hand of one of my own. i couldn't imagine that. >> it was surprising, but i kind of had a feeling that it might be him, you know. a lot of people don't want to look at it that way, you know, but seems like family, you got to look at the family first, for me.

>> well, authorities are not releasing the brother's name because he is, in fact, a minor. christine, the main question today is why, and what ultimately made investigators suspicious? back to you. >> all right, dan simon in california. thanks, dan. ahead on "starting point" o.j. simpson wants a new trial claiming bad legal advice put him behind bars. could he get his way? a live report on that next. >> and then this is not what you expect to see when you open irfront door especially on mother's day. one family discovers an eight-foot alligator outside their house. the whole story and how they survived. right after the break. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal.

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welcome back to "starting point." his trial of the century was actually in the last century. but this morning, o.j. simpson will be back in court. simpson is currently serving prison time for armed robbery. now he wants a new trial claiming his lawyers did such a bad job that his conviction from 2008 should be thrown out. cnn's paul vercammen is live in las vegas with the details on this. good morning, paul. >> good morning, john. o.j. simpson is now 65 years

old, almost 66. he'll walk into the courtroom in his prison uniform. and there's a legal fight going on right now to try to get the handcuffs also removed. these are the last images of o.j. simpson in public, being led out of a las vegas courtroom to prison in late 2008. simpson was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery for leading armed men into a hotel room to try to settle a dispute over sports memorabilia he wanted back. >> we were just robbed at gunpoint by o.j. simpson. >> reporter: simpson was secretly recorded during the confrontation, which became part of the 2008 trial testimony. >> [ bleep ] still [ bleep ] out here. >> reporter: simpson's new lawyers will argue their client was so horribly represented in that kidnapping trial, he deserves a new trial and freedom. >> we firmly believe he did not get a fair trial. i think that's going to bear out during the hearing. we want the judge to take a fresh look at this, what should have been presented, what wasn't presented, what was said, what

wasn't said. >> reporter: simpson is expected to take the witness stand this week, something he never did in the las vegas kidnapping trial, or his sensational televised trial in 1995. where he was acquitted of murdering his ex-wife nicole brown simpson and her friend ronald goldman. other witnesses expected this week are now retired prosecutors in the las vegas case, and yale gallanter, simpson's lead attorney in the kidnap trial, and a former ally. simpson's new lawyers will argue that gallanter has a conflict of interest in part because of his business dealings with the football star. simpson has been housed at the lovelock correctional center in northern nevada. his lawyers call him a model inmate. >> it's common in the prison for there to be different factions that don't get along with each other, and because of his status as a celebrity, and his personality, he's sometimes mediates between different groups when they're having conflicts.

>> reporter: simpson is now hoping his new legal team will spring him from prison for good. and simpson is serving a 9 to 33-year sentence. his new lawyer's going to argue that that sentence was too harsh. back to you now, john, christine. >> this will be interesting, paul. it's been a long time since we've seen o.j. simpson. paul vercammen in las vegas. thanks so much. >> this is berman's favorite story of the day. a family in parkland, florida, got this. >> oh. yep, a scaly mother's day surprise. waking up to find an eight-foot alligator right on their front porch. >> at first the mother thought it was some kind of elaborate mother's day prank. but seriously, this was no joke. what they did is they called in the famous gator boys to remove the alligator. >> they bagged it and took it back to holiday park. coming up at 8:30, we'll hear from one of the gator boys.

>> doesn't look like it was easy. paul will explain how he captured take alligator, i assume the answer is very carefully. oh, my goodness. >> also ahead on "starting point," after a police officer meet as teen walking home from work, she decides to give him the gift that keeps on giving. their amazing story next.

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it became the ride of a teenag teenager's life about christian felix was walking along a late at night, you thought he might be breaking curfew. >> turns out he missed the bus after wok, so he had to walk

nine miles to get home. christian explained he did not have a bike and never learned to ride one, so the sergeant was so impressed with the young man, she gave him a bike and with the help of her squad, taught christian how to ride it. sergeant and christian join us now live from phoenix. great to see you this morning. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. good morning. >> let me ask you, sergeant, what went through your head when you saw christian walking that night? >> well, it was late at night about, 11:00. and i saw this young juvenile walking. and it was a desolate area, so i was thinking maybe he's violating curfew or possibly a runaway. so i pulled up next to him and i asked him what he was doing. he said that he had missed the bus and that he was walking home. and he had a long way to walk. >> and christian, you're

thinking you're in big trouble here. so you go from thinking, gosh, i'm in big trouble to getting a bike and bike lessons. that's that bean like? >> it's been -- it's unbelievable. i didn't think anything like this would happen from just walking late at night and then somebody just says a kindness like that for you. it's crazy. >> and you work at a mcdonald's, so sometimes you work different shifts. if you miss the bus, it's hard get being back and forth. how has the bike changed things and how was to learn to ride the bike? >> well, at first i it was kind of embarrassing because i'm 18 and all my friends, they kind of messed with me, give me a hard time. like christian is 18, doesn't know how to ride a bike.

then they said don't worry about age, you're doing fine. so thanks, dude. >> sergeant, you could have just given him a ride home and said good-bye. what made you decide to get more involved here? >> well, on the ride home, i was talking to him and he said that he never knew how to ride a bike and i was shocked over this because, you know, all the kids i know know how to ride a bike. and when i brought him home, his mom was so thankful that i had given him a ride home, they actually had been texting each other, she was making sure he was okay as he was walking. so i just noticed the great relationship between him and his mother and she said he was a really good kid, never been arrested before, doesn't drink, do drugs, and he has a job. and i just thought that was great. you know, good person. and so then i went home and i started thinking about it and i'll like i have an extra bike at home, why not teach this person, christian, how to ride a bike. >> sounds like you're both pretty good people based on the

evidenced we're seeing here. sergeant, christian, thank you so much for being with us. good luck riding. we know you can do it. >> thanks. ahead on "starting point," onil and pedro castro break their silence. why the brothers of ariel castro say they feel like victims, too. >> and the older brother of leila fowler taken into custody by police. saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) designed for your most precious cargo. (girl) what? (announcer) the all-new subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. there was this and this. she got a parking ticket...

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welcome back. our starting point this morning, the brothers of the cleveland man accused of kidnapping three women and holding them in 40r risk conditions for ten year, the brothers speak exclusively to cnn. >> what is your brother to you now in. >> monster. hateful. i hope he rots in that jail. >> what they want the word and the newly freed women to know. and shots and screams ring out at a mother's day parade in new orleans. gunfire wounds 19 people, including two children. and now the manhunt. we're live with the latest. oh, my goodness.

that is an alligator, not a happy one. imagine waking up to that 8-foot gator at your front door. one family's terrifying surprise caught on video. we'll talk to the man from gator boys who had to wrestle that beast. it is monday, may 13. and "starting point" begins right now. >> our starting point this hour, captured on camera, the final moments of three women escaping from captivity. two yuck women who thought they were being pulled over by the cops, they wind up as witnesses to history instead. >> they did it by videotaping police rushing into the home of suspected kidnapper ariel castro last week. you'll see it all go down in a moment. but also new this morning, a cnn exclusive. >> do you worry now that people will always suspect that you actually did have a role?

>> straight ahead we'll have martin savidge's riveting interview with onil and pedro castro. >> so much going on this morning. let's get to susan candiotti in cleveland. the two young ladies who rolled that video at castro's house, they have quite a story to tell this morning. >> reporter: they do. and you have to picture this. these two women had just turned their car down the street, they see police lights flashing behind them and they think what did we do wrong, so they pull over. but quickly realize the police don't care about them. the police's attention is focused on this house over my shoulder. and that's when the women picked up their cell phone video and started to roll. and where did you see her, amanda and her little girl? >> coming down the street. >> reporter: and everything unfolded right here. these two women happened to turn on to air cell castro's street and found themselves smack in

the middle of an amazing escape to freedom. >> we seen amanda walk down the street with a cop and right when the cop asked her who are you, she passed us and said amanda berry. >> reporter: and when you heard the name, you knew -- >> me and her looked at each other and we had goose bumps. if hit us quick. >> when she said amanda berry, i saw it in her eyes and i knew it was really her and she had tears coming down her face. >> reporter: she pulled out her cell phone and rolled video as police ran to ariel castro's house looking for other victims. and then her phone ran out of power. >> we seen gina come down the steps and shaking real hard. and they sook them to the ambulance. >> reporter: they watched gina dejesus, michelle knight and amanda berry and her daughter taken away by ambulance. ♪ on mother's day, special prayers and thanksgiving at holy family

catholic church for the women's freedom. a crisis management team stepped in to represent the women at no charge pleading for privacy, but passing along the victims' thanks. from amanda -- >> i am so happy to be home with my family. >> reporter: from gina. >> i want to thank everyone for all your prars. >> reporter: from michelle. >> i'm healthy, happy, and safe. and will reach out to family, friends and supporters in good time. >> reporter: castro's home now finally boarded up, sealed as evidence. a city councilman allowed to stand in the backyard what the women endured for a decade. >> you can't help but feel like the presence of this enormity of the event. it's unbelievable. >> reporter: what did you picture in your mind's eye of what those women went through as

you stood back will? >> just horrors. absolute horrors. >> and now to a cnn exclusive. pedro and onil castro breaking their silence about their brother, the ten years of torture he allegedly inflicted on his victims and the impact it has had on them. martin savidge with the story you'll see only on cnn. >> when you were arrested on monday and brought in, were you told why you were under arrest? >> absolutely not. >> no. >> you had no idea. >> no. >> no. not for 48, maybe 36 to 48 hours later. >> pedro, when did you become aware? >> well, there was an inmate that didn't speak english, so i translated for her. so then i askeded her now that i help you, can you help me. >> this is to the officer. >> yes. >> and she said sure. what you want to know.

i want to know what am i being charged for. so she said, okay, i will see. so she comes back and she's got a piece of paper written do whatever i was in for. and because i didn't have my reading glasses, i looked and i said, oh, open container. she said, no, read it again. and i said, oh, kidnapping? what's this kidnapping? >> where was ariel? >> ariel was in the front more towards the front on suicide watch. >> did he ever go past you, did you ever see him or -- >> i did. because where he was at, there is no toilet. so across from my cell, there was one open. so he came there and used it. i seen -- and that's when i seen him. and when he came out, he said

peace to me. >> so evidently that happened with him aware when he walked past me, he goes onil, you're never going to see me again. i love you you can bro. and that was it. >> so when did you become aware of what he did? >> just shortly after that when the detective took me into the room and started asking me questions and showing me pictures of the girls. and when he showed me the pictures of the girls, asked me do you know these girls, showed me the first. i can't tell you which one he showed me first. but he says have you ever seen this girl. and i said no i've never seen that girl. and then he showed me the other one and have you ever seen is this girl. no, i've never seen that girl. and he says that's gina dejesus and amanda berry and my heart fell. i dropped you can not physically, but just hit the ground. after he said that's amanda

berry and they were in your brother's house. >> you had been to the house. >> yes. >> i mean, how often? >> no, no, not how often. i didn't go to his house very much. but when i did, he would let me in not past the kitchen. >> could you see anything beyond the kitchen? >> no. because there's curtains. >> he had the house blocked off with curtains? >> uh-huh. >> and could you hear anything in the home? >> no, the radio was playing all the time. >> he would play music all the time. >> yeah. if not the radio, the tv. something had to be on at all times in the kitchen. so i could hear nothing else but the radio or the tv. >> did you in any way know, help, assist your brother in the

horrible things he's accused of doing? >> absolutely not. no idea that this horrific crime was going on. >> pedro? >> no. >> you know there are people who will say you had to know. how is it possible for so long in that home, your brother, you couldn't know? >> for those people out there, i'll tell you something, i had nothing to do with this and i don't know how my brother got away with it for so many years. because that would never cross my mind. >> he fooled you. >> he fooled me. >> do you worry now that people will always suspect that you actually did have a role? >> absolutely. >> yes. >> and the people out there that

know me, they know that onil castro is not that person, has nothing to do with that. >> same. i couldn't never think of doing anything like that. >> what is your brother to you now? >> monster, hateful. i hope he rots in that jail. i don't even want them to take his life like that. i want him to suffer in that jail. to the last extent. i don't care if they even feed him for what he has done for my life and my family's. >> i feel the same way. >> to the both of you now, he no longer exists. >> the monster is a goner. >> if you could talk to gina, michelle, amanda, and in a way you are i guess, what would you

say? >> i would tell her that i'm sorry -- i would tell them that i'm sorry that you had to go through this, that i was thinking about these girls being missing and i'm just grateful that they're home and, you know, out of that horrible house. i just tell them that i'm sorry for what ariel done. because, see, i -- not much -- it's felix, i know him for long time. and when i find out that he had gina, i just broke down. because it's shocking.

we know this guy for a long time, felix. >> this is jegina's father. >> yeah. felix. and you got his daughter. you go around like it's nothing. you even went to the vigils. you had posters. you give his mom a hug and you've got his daughter captive? >> onil, the same thing. >> i just want justice to the fullest extent. this has killed me. i'm a walking corpse right now. >> why are you talking to me? >> i want the world to know that onil and pedro, me, pedro, had nothing to do with this. it was a shock to me to learn

that my brother, ariel, was doing this. >> i want to thank you both for talking to us, for sharing with us. and opening up to us. >> thank you. and i hope the world listen to us and -- >> we want it back to normal. >> you already got your monster. please give us our freedom. >> reporter: and you can tell that that is fear that you hear. i mean, the emotions that they feel, there is no anger against the police department for arresting them. the brothers understand that. all of their anger is focused on one thing and that's their brother, ariel. back to you. >> and are martin, any word from the brothers on how their mother is doing?

her son is suspected of horrific crimes and two other sons trying to deal with what signs they may have missed. >> their mother is 71 years of age. she also has not been able to go home. she's been in hiding because of the threats that have been made and the torment they describe for their mother is almost unimaginable. because just as you described, you've got two sons who have been painted as being part of this and then you have one son who now allegedly is part of this. and the heartbreak between those two sides must be amazing. >> martin ofsavidge, thanks for the incredible interview. coming up, he asks the brothers about the little girl they saw with ariel castro. you'll be able to watch the full interview starting at 9:00. and police asking for the public's help to find the person who started shooting at a crowd during a mother's day parade.

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welcome back. there is a manhunt in new orleans for the suspect or suspects that brought a mother's day parade to a violent end. this right now is video just released by police of the suspect allegedly shooting into the crowd right there. you can see him they say running away. 19 people were hurt in the shooting. police are asking for the public to help. they're offering a $10,000 reward. cnn has also obtained video of the actual shooting.

listen to this. >> i got the [ bleep ]. [ gunfire ] >> alena, police released pictures of the apparently shooter. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, the pictures as you mentioned were just released. they are of a surveillance video of the scene. we want to show that to you again. police say they show a man in a white shirt who appears to be shooting into the crowd and then running away from the scene. police say that man is a suspect in the case and they are asking for the public's help in identifying him. now, this shooting took place in a neighborhood in the seventh ward around 1:30 yesterday afternoon. this took place during a second line parade which is a traditional celebration here in new orleans. so there were hundreds on the road for the gather, participating in the parade. 19 were wounded.

two of those were children. now, city officials are wowing to find who is responsible for this shooting. and here's what the mayor had to say. >> we have mothers that were shot, sisters that were shot, we have little children that were shot. these kinds of incidents are not going to go unanswered. we'll be very, very aggressive. there were hundreds of people out there today. so somebody knows who did this. >> reporter: police say most of the injuries are not life threatening and several victims were wrought to lsu medical center. we're still working to find out what their conditions are and how many of them remain hospitalized this morning. >> alina machado, thank you so much. ahead, a scandal hits the irs. they admitted they targeted the tea party. a live report from washington is next. lthy diet. that's true.

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welcome back. outrage really is growing this morning as new details emerge about how the irs specifically targeted tea party groups. >> on friday the irs admitted it made mistakes over the last few years while trying to process requests from groups seeking tax exempt status. does dan lothian with the latest on a growing controversy. >> reporter: indeed this is a growing controversy. republican members of congress and conservative groups are calling for an independent investigation, they're highly skeptical of the irs explanation and they're not satisfied with an apology.

tea party and other conservative groups that rose to power early in the president's first term were unfairly targeted for special scrutiny by the irs. and some agency officials knew as early as june 2011 according to an irs audit that sources tell cnn is expected to be released this week. >> this is truly outrageous. and it contributes to the profound distrust that the american people have in government. >> i don't care if you're a conservative, liberal, democrat or republican, this should send a chill up your spine. >> reporter: the audit will show irs agents singled out groups, some with tea party or patriot in their names, that had applied for tax exempt status. despite protests by the groups, the richirs had previously deni unfair targeting. there is no targeting. this is the kind of back and forth when people apply. >> reporter: the irs now says its senior leadership was not aware of the special scrutiny at

the time of the hearing. but with the results of the audit about to become public, the agency now says officials were just trying to deal with the large influx of new requests. quote, mistakes were made anybodily, but they were in no way due to any political or partisan rationale. we fixed the situation last year." white house press secretary jay carney says the president expects swift and appropriate steps to address any misconduct if it is found. >> what we know about this is of concern. and we certainly find the actions taken as reported to be inappropriate and we would fully expect the investigation to be thorough and for corrections to be made in a case like this. >> reporter: a tea party official told cnn that this is, quote, chilling and an abuse of power. they are concerned other groups could also be targeted if everyone who is involved with this is not held accountable. >> all right, dan, thanks.

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dramatic moment when the three women managed to escape ten years in captivity. two women were driving on seymour avenue when the police officers were rushing into the home. they started recording the whole thing. susan candiotti is live in cleveland. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. it was really an accident al turn down the street when all of a sudden the two women see police lights flashing behind them, so they immediately pulled over. they quickly realized the police were focusing all their attention on what was happening right in front of them at the house down the street. and then they saw a woman standing in front of their car holding a small child. and they heard her say her name amanda berry. they immediately knew what that meant. they fumbled with their cell phone, started rolling an caught the officers as they rushed into the house to rescue the other

two women. gina dejesus and michelle knight. here's what the women told me about rolling her video. >> amanda was walking down the street with a cop and right when the cop asked her who are you, she passed us and said amanda berry. when she said amanda berry, i knew it was really her. she had tears coming down her face. >> reporter: so many people in the cleveland area recognize the name amanda berry and the others because they have been missing for ten years. so she will never forget what she was able to see and capture on her cell phone. but you know, what the battery died almost as soon as she started rolling. so she only captured a few seconds of it. but she'll never forget it. christine. >> what's next for castro now? >> reporter: well, of course he's sitting in jail in that cell by himself contemplating his future no doubt. you've heard what his brothers are saying about him. but the next step for him legally is to face probably an

indictment by a grand jury here. that's the next step. and he'll see how many charges he faces and whether murder will be among them. back to you. >> all right. susan candiotti, thank you. also new this morning, the interview you will see only on have not. pedro and onil castro speaking out about the horrific crimes their brother, ariel, allegedly committed. these brothers talk about the devastating impact it is having on their own lives and why they feel like victims, too. martin savidge spoke to them exclusively. >> i don't want to this be true. i want to wake up out of 9 nightmare. >> i want to say that i don't want to be hunted down like a dog for a crime that i did not commit. i don't want to be locked up in my house because somebody out there is going to do harm to me. >> coming up in the next hour, martin savidge asks the castro

brothers about the little girl they saw with their brother, ariel castro. you'll be able to watch the full interview starting at 9:00 a.m.. a stunning development in the stabbing death of an 8-year-old california girl leila fowl fowler. her 12-year-old brother is in custody, accused of murdering her. fowler's stepmother issued a brief statement on facebook, quote, a thank you to those standing by us in this can he have investigatidevastating tim you for respecting your privacp. dan simon is live in valley springs, california. >> reporter: this small community had been absolutely terrorized for two weeks thinking that there was a killer on the loose. now the sheriff came out and announced the surprising development. in the days after her killing, an emotional can tell light vigil to remember 8-year-old leila fowler. >> she was beautiful and strong.

she was kind. i remembered that leila liked purple. >> reporter: leila's family among the mourners. seen her was her 12-year-old brother, the one who told police that an intruder stabbed her sister while they were home alone and their parents at a little league baseball game, a story authorities now say was a lie. >> at 5:10 pch, detectives arre leila's 12-year-old brother and charges of homicide. these types of cases require a consider be amouble amount of t and it was our commitment to make sure we did as thorough a job as possible. >> reporter: the family remained visible throughout the saes. leila spoke about the closeness between her son and daughter. >> he never pushed her around, he never was -- i never seen him be mean to her. >> reporter: in the immediate

after math, this usually serene northern california community of 7500 went if to a near frenzy as nervous residents believed a killer was at large. wondered whether there would be more victims. >> i've lived here 33 years. i've never seen anything like this happen. we've had bad things happen in our community, but never like this to a little child. >> reporter: patricia campbell own as popular diner in town. she and every else we talked to here were shocked at the turn of events. >> it's bad enough to lose one of your own children. i can't imagine losing one by the hand of one of my own. i couldn't imagine that. >> it was surprising, but i kind of had a feeling that a might be him, you know. a lot of people don't want to look at it that way, but seems like that family, you for tyou look at the family first for me. >> reporter: so the main question today is why and what

aroused investigators' suspicio suspicions. >> because initially there had been a report that the brother had seen someone running out of the house and everyone was simo. o.j. simpson will try to convince a judge to troe out his 2008 conviction and order a new trial. he scissors his former attorney botched the case. good morning, paul. >> reporter: good morning. o.j. simpson now 65 years old, soon to be 66, and one thing at play here, he certainly does not want to spend the rest of his life in prison. these are the last image o.j. simpson in public being led out of a los angeles courtroom to prison in late 2008. simpson was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery for leading armed men into a hotel

room to try to settle a dispute over sports memorabilia he wanted back. >> we were robbeded a gun point. >> reporter: simpson was secretly recorded during the n confrontation which back a part of the testimony. simpson's new lawyers will argue their client was so horribly represented in that kidnapping trial he deserves a new trial and freedom. >> we firmly believe he did not get a fair trial. i think that's going to bear out during the hearing. we want the judge to take a fresh look at this, what should have been presented before, what wasn't presented, what was said, what wasn't said. >> reporter: simpson is expected to take the witness stand this week, something he never did in the las vegas kidnapping trial or his sensational televised trial in 195. where he was acquitted of murdering his ex-wife, nicole brown simpson, and her friend, ronald goldman. other witnesses expected this week are now retired prosecutors

in the las vegas case and yale galanter, simpson's lead attorney in the kidnap trial and former ally. simpson's new lawyers will argue that galanter had a conflict of interest in part because of his business dealings with the football star. simpson has been housed in northern nevada. his lawyers call him a model inmate. >> it's common for those not to get along with each other, because of his status of a celebrity and his personality, he sometimes mediates between different groups. >> reporter: simpson is now hoping his new legal team will spring him from prison for good. and simpson's sentence 9 to 33 years. john, christine. >> as you said, now 65 years old. thanks for that report. appreciate it. ahead on "starting point," a family getting a shock of its life when an #-foot alligator pops up at the front door.

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so it was a startling way to begin mother's day. a florida family woke up yesterday morning to this. >> they found an 8-foot alligator hissing on their front porch.

wplg was live at the house to see the terrifying visitor live. >> your wife thought it was a mother's day prank. >> she thought i was pulling another one on her. definitely wasn't. >> it's huge. been hissing all morning. >> it's at our front door. >> so the family called paul bedard from the gator boys to remove this scaly intruder. and he joins us live from everglades holiday park in ft. lauderdale with the perpetrator right there in front of you. so they called you, you got there, this was just sitting at the front door hissing. what did you do? >> it was actually -- it was pretty easy. he let me grab his tail, was real gentle, dragged him out to the grass and basically did like a little impromptu alligator wrestling show to tire him out and then tape his mouth shut. >> i don't know what kind of jedi mind vehictricks you're us

but how dangerous can they be? what was the real threat this family faced? >> the biggest thing is if he had been walking out the door and stepped on him. the gator will take that as and the attack and defend himself and bad things could happen. if he gets a hold of your leg, he could do serious damage. >> what do you think he wanted, breakfast? what did he want? >> well, it's funny, one of my volunteers, caroline, saw the video and said he was delivering a package. so she named him fedex. but they will walk around at night sometimes and probably just got disoriented, trying to get back to the pond behind the house and got trapped in there. >> so you look pretty casual there, as well. you host the show gator boys.

you meet a lot of alligators. is there any situation at this point that still scares you? >> not really. i hat to be that guy, but not the really. i've kind of seen it all. so you have faith in your abilities and god that you won't do anything stupid and you should be okay. >> what happens to fedex now? now on this preserve, fedex can live out his sentence, i assume. >> yeah, as a nuisance gator, he can't be released in the wild. he has to be kept in captivity and destroyed. and we're a rescue center. so we'll selet him live out his days. >> since you are being that gay and saying in is no alligator that scares you -- >> i'm scared right now. >> if the alley gators don't scare you, what does? >> i'm pretty old.

not much anymore. you get immune to stuff after you've been doing it a long time. so, yeah, i don't know. >> what do you think the alligator is going through right now? >> he just wants to get back to the water. we pulled him out so you could talk about him, but he feels more comfortable in the water. so he'll end up going back in there until we transport pim him later this afternoon. >> do we have like a three second delay in case he carries you with him? >> i don't think that will happen. >> you're so confident. i can't believe it. >> paul bedard, thank you so much for being with us. great work. >> all right, guys. >> our best to fedex and i hope you two remain happy and calm for the rest of the morning. appreciate it. >> all right. god bless. 47 after the hour. ahead on "starting point," this may be the coolest cover you have ever seen.

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td a ma dchl tdameritrade says more clients own that than ever before. futures this morning are pointing always lower after week after week of strong gains. a little soft this morning. suspect in the aurora movie master theater wants to change plea to not guilty by reason of insani insanity. a mental evaluation could take months to complete. he's accused of opening fire in a crowded theater killing 12 and wounding 70 others. he faces the death penalty if convicted. unlikely survivor of bangladesh building collapse is said to be in fragile condition but improving steadily. the 19-year-old mother named reshma has started eating food. she was trapped in the rubble for 17 days before rescuers found her. 1127 bodies have been recovered

from the wreckage. the recovery earth is said to officially end tomorrow. if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. here is what's happening when a demolition team had trouble taking down a silo in red bank. they used more than 220 pounds of explosives and started off as planned, but then it stopped following. and the silo looked more like the leaning power of pisa. it stay that had way up they brought in some heavy construction equipment to give it a nudge. and more remarkable pictures. in california, houses sinking into the ground. eight homes in lake county have been abandoned and ten in imminent danger of the ground giving way. residents say it is a slow motion disaster. prince harry on a whirlwind tour of the u.s.. coming up, stops in new york and new jersey. but before that, the prince spent the weekendveterans.

max foster is covering the royal visit. >> reporter: the american public had their first chance to get up close to prince harry at this weekend's warrior games. >> it's something different that we don't have here. we have celebrities that are in hollywood and they're the royal family. >> definitely unique. he has an accent, which makes it cooler than us. >> and he's unmarried. >> that's a big part of it. >> reporter: closest harry came to marriage was kissing the winners. the announcer suggesting these women won't be washing their faces for a while. he may be flattered, but not something that he's looking for on this tour. his deep suspicion of the media makes him wary of the cameras. he's happy to have tell on board for events that he wants to promote. >> always great having them around, but today it's about to

getting the message across to every other country. >> reporter: and these games for wounded war vets is something that he does want people to hear about. prince harry's currently talking to a few of the cyclists involved in the race here. this is the event that he wants to take around the world and throwing himself in as usual. >> fantastic idea here and bringing to the uck, why not. >> 300 days a year of sunshine here in our beautiful colorado. why don't you move here? >> because it's not always sunny. >> reporter: he would always have to get more used to football american style. harry is a rugby fan. was he tar 2k3we9igeting the me wonder. on 9 next leg to new york, harry takes on another iconic american sport, baseball. he's been given tips on throwing

the ball or pitching. just as well, baseballs can be more dangerous than footballs. media beware. the prince will also meet up with governor chris christie in new jersey to see a neighborhood torn apart by hurricane sandy. the governor said he was grateful for the print for putting the rebuilding effort back on the news agenda. max foster, cnn, colorado springs. >> on the royal watch. and he's coming this way. very exciting. ground control to astronaut chris. chris hatfield has been working on the international space station, but before heading back to earth, he did his own cover version of the david bowie classic space oddity. ♪ this is crowd control to major tom, you've really made the grade and the papers want to know whose shirts you wear ♪

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that's it for "starting point". newsroom can carol costello begins right now. happening now, a cnn exclusive. the brothers of ariel castro speaking out. >> did you in any way know, help, assist your brother? >> absolutely not. >> no. >> onil and pedro castro and the red flags and warnings. and we're behavior. >> i didn't go to his house very much. but when i did, he would let me in not past the kitchen. also, breaking overnight, a huge fire multiple fatalities, now investigators on the scene